Chat

• mesw: first
• 187: 2nd
• szacharnia: cześć, kłania sie http://szacharnia.blogspot.com
• BlunderSuck: last
• dakgootje: heh and once again vallejo goes in for a wild game
• feres: I think 18...Qd8 is the best move in this line, according theory
• feres: white idea is to block black squares with queen
• 187: was this position ever meet before&
• 187: black is really good here
• feres: i have opened Chessbase and I have found 3 games
• feres: black is slightly worse
• balibaloche: it seems vallejo knows this perfectly
• feres: it seems! Qd8 idea is Qf6
• feres: if Rd1
• balibaloche: b4is dangerous for whites
• balibaloche: ...b4
• feres: here white has played Kc2, Rhd1 and Rhf1
• feres: if Qxc6 b4! Kc2 b3 and Rc8 with an easy game for black
• balibaloche: he takes a very long time to play this move
• BlunderSuck: he went play a poker game
• BlunderSuck: At some point, I would like to see both black rook on the D-file
• balibaloche: + 40 min for vallejo
• Cercatore: what he has do think all this time? :|
• siamesedream: maybe about last year's snow
• Zeblakob80: this is a well analysed line in the QGA, I forget its name
• Zeblakob80: the line with Ne5 ..
• Zeblakob80: I remeber ..
• Zeblakob80: This line has been played between Kramnik and Shirov in 2000 or 1999
• balibaloche: who won ?
• Zeblakob80: Shirov lost but he had chances to draw
• Zeblakob80: I analysed his game with Fritz
• balibaloche: shirov was blacks
• Zeblakob80: 5 mnths ago
• Zeblakob80: Yes.
• balibaloche: ok
• Zeblakob80: I think white deviates here on move 15 ...
• balibaloche: je pense que ca peut meme gagner si c'est bien mené
• siamesedream: relay problem?
• Zeblakob80: the point is that Black has to fight for a draw in the hole game
• balibaloche: 4 pawns for a piece could be better in endgame
• Zeblakob80: but the piece is more dangerous in the midlle game, I guess.
• balibaloche: i'm curious of this
• Zeblakob80: it will be 3 pawns for the pieces sonner or later
• balibaloche: agree
• Zeblakob80: the move 16 Be2!! was discovered by Kramnik on the borad in that game, and Shirov said that he did not consider this move in his preparation !!! (If I remenber well)
• Zeblakob80: board
• 187: I think its broadcasting problems - 1 hour for 1 move is too great
• 187: especially if its 18 move
• balibaloche: the official site gives this position but 1h40 for grischuk ???
• Cercatore: ...
• siamesedream: 1 hour gap
• Zeblakob80: no it is 38m ??
• balibaloche: now it is...yes
• Destrudo: a bishop for 4 pawns .... interesting
• 187: qf6 -0.7
• Destrudo: this will be difficuly for white
• Destrudo: he will have to sac the bishop for two pawns and after that black is winning#
• ounos: wow...so he really took that long to play?
• Zeblakob80: the ideas of the earlier similar Kramnik-Shirov game can be reused here up to a slight reajustement.
• 187: Zeb - have you got a link on that Kram - Shirov game?
• feres: Kc2 was played in Sherbakov-Bareev
• feres: Bareev played Rb8
• feres: 19...Qf6 is new move
• Zeblakob80: 187, it is in my memory but I can look for a link ... just a second ..
• feres: Kramnik-Shirov was 14.Kc2 line
• 187: thx
• Zeblakob80: Kramnik-Shirov is here http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1296437
• 187: thx
• tsttst70: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1296437
• greenknight: grischuk in deep time trouble
• Zeblakob80: as usual
• Jupp53: tks for the info about the former games. I'm just working on this to get it into my repertoire with black.
• Zeblakob80: Jupp53, they contains many forced variations, and the point is that how to find the right defence for Shirov ...
• siamesedream: lets wait for after time control's evaluation
• sammour: draw by repetiiton
• BlunderSuck: draw by repetition
• BlunderSuck: bet
• siamesedream: yep - perpatual
• sammour: Qa4 and it is perpetual
• siamesedream: if Grischuk wouldd have more time...
• sammour: although vallejo had the time advantage
• sammour: it was a draw anyway
• siamesedream: 1/2
• sammour: the position is balanced
• feres: white want to save time for control, 34.Rb1 and Kd1 is safe